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posted on 2004-2-14 at 19:23
do you think that there is something instinctive and primal about being around your biological mother/father? while in the womb is the mother just acting as a vessel, or is there a relationship being created?





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posted on 2004-2-14 at 20:02
Ok, I have thought about this for a moment. I think the process of birth is building a bond for the mother, not the child. I think once born, that's when the child begins the relationship.

By saying that, I feel that by being adopted, that does not affect a person's relationship with females.

I don't think there is any difference to a child whether the mother is biological or not. As long as the woman raises the child like a mother should, the child will know no difference.

I guess I can sort of say this with a little confidence because my fiancee and half her siblings are adopted. I have seen them interact with eachother and there is nothing slightly different about the way she interacts with her mother, than the way I act with mine. I've asked her similar questions to the ones that have been asked and she always says always says she never thinks about it in that way..the woman who raised her IS her mom. She has absolutely no urge to find her biological parents.

I guess circumstances could be different if you weren't raised from birth and were adopted at a slightly older age. But, in the end, it's a case by case thing. Everyone takes the situation differently. There really is no final answer to this question.





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posted on 2004-2-14 at 22:23
I still believe that there IS a difference, the relationship is subconsiously being created during the pregnancy.





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posted on 2004-2-14 at 22:46
Well, let's agree to disagree...





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posted on 2004-2-15 at 02:48
No!!! Let's agree to fight to the death!!! Now that's entertainment!

Back to the topic however, I agree with Dez, but I can't really think of a cogent argument to support this opinion, though.





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posted on 2004-2-15 at 02:51
I was actually just going to post and ask if there was any particular reason she/you feel this way. Is it just, simply, something you believe?





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posted on 2004-2-15 at 05:39
I SWEAR I will elaborate on this with something really long and interesting, but right now my brain is fried..too much drinking.





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posted on 2004-2-15 at 16:07
Well if the baby likes/shares a relationship with his motha, why does he/she kick her so many times? I have to agree with Chris on this one, anyone of a motherly figure to the child will be accepted. If I claimed to be a child's mom at birth, I'm sure it would accept me.





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posted on 2004-2-15 at 18:09
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Well if the baby likes/shares a relationship with his motha, why does he/she kick her so many times? I have to agree with Chris on this one, anyone of a motherly figure to the child will be accepted. If I claimed to be a child's mom at birth, I'm sure it would accept me.

i hope that's this Chris you're agreeing with, although i think the other Chris also agrees with this one.





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posted on 2004-2-15 at 23:45
so unless dez's brain becomes unfried and she wants to explain herself i'd say new topic....i'd have to agree with chris, chris, and chris on this one tho





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posted on 2004-2-16 at 04:09
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posted on 2004-2-16 at 04:20
new topic.... how about:

does fate exist?





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posted on 2004-2-16 at 05:50
dont ask me, im the one with the crazy philosiphies about us living the same life over and over again that no one understands... but i would say yes, because of my beleifs (refer to the "Life" thread)





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posted on 2004-2-16 at 07:14
Consider:

Each person is conditionned by their environment and genetics to be a certain way. So while they may apparently have a freedom of choice, really all their choices are made in advance (by the predisposition of their nature). If this is true, then people's interaction with each other becomes similarly pre-determined, and likewise the whole of humanity and its actions are locked into one single path. Neither of these are unreasonable jumps in logic. It could be true.





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